Y-Loop Recording #1

Curt Baggett: The two things people always lie to you about is their finances and their sex life, they've either got too much or not enough – you’ll never know.

Sex, Love and Relationships.

What I want you to do now, is take your pen and take your paper, and draw me some y’s and g’s. I want to know how you sign your y’s and g’s.

OK, put it on the screen.

Bart Baggett (reading): “You and your silly monkey go home to the zoo.”

By the way, this section we’re going to speed right through, but that entire book covers the topic of relationships in detail. How many of you have read that book, cover to cover, “The Secrets to Making Love Happen”? Good. I really recommend doing that, it really is a great context for relationships and handwriting.

Curt Baggett: If your y or g is medium sized with a loop in it, raise your hand.

No, no, first, I’m sorry, I did it wrong. Everyone who has very, very large lower loops, raise your hand.

If you draw with a straight line down, raise your hand. A straight line down, no loops. Gayle – you try very hard not to need anybody, you can do it all by yourself, can’t you? And you don’t trust anybody either, do you?

Gayle: Maybe one or two people.

Curt Baggett: One, or two people? You don’t have to answer. OK, medium-sized, everyone who does y’s or g’s regular sized, where your loop is about the size of the top of the letter, raise your hand, let me see.

OK, that’s about half the people in here. Wow! I’ve never seen a group with such normality! (audience laughs)

If you draw your y or g down and it goes to the right, out towards the future, from the bottom, raise your hand. Lori, get your hand up – yours is way over here, WAY over here.

Bonita? I’ve known Bonita over fourteen years, and I know she likes a lot of variety in her life – she likes to do different things all the time – that’s what that means.

Bart Baggett: By the way, talking about Sex, Love and Relationships and we start with the Y, there is a lot more to sex, love, relationships, good lover, bad lover, than just the y. It is the simplest and fastest way to ascertain how much people trust, how much intimacy they’re going to handle, and also their physical drive. It’s a very quick analysis of that.

Here’s the Y chart – this is from Chapter 3 or 4 of The Secrets to Making Love Happen. It’s figure 8.3 in Dr. Walker’s book, it’s slide 3C in your handouts here.

These are the different ways you can make a y. There are a couple that aren’t covered here, but in most cases it’s going to be a couple of these.

How many of you write your y’s and g’s more than one way? Totally different? What do you do with that? You take an average – sometimes this way, sometimes that way.

Now, I know that sounds like an astrologer, when you say, well, sometimes you trust people and sometimes you don’t, but if their writing really has two different strokes in there, then that’s going to be an accurate statement, and they’re going to relate to that.

Unless you’re a robot, with predictable input and output, you’re going to change a little bit, and your writing will change a little bit with what you’re doing.

This is the y, and it’s very logical, because with the rest of the writing, longer descenders mean what? The heavier and longer the y goes down, the increase in what? Energy. Drive. Physical-ness.

For example, if you have a loner, with a very long, heavy downstroke, would that person have a big sex drive?

Student: No

Bart Baggett: Why would you say “no?” Here’s the question – if he had a loner stroke, but it was very heavy and long, would he have a very big sex drive? Yes, why?

Student: Because it’s determined by the length.

Curt Baggett: I did an analysis for a lady one time at an athletic club. She had y’s like Jennifer, and I said, “We have a real, live sex maniac,” and everybody laughed. (She did too.)

A few minutes later, she came to me and asked, “Could that mean anything else?” I explained to her, what it really means is, you make big deals out of little things. She said, “I’m married, happily, with two kids, and I think I have a normal sex life; but, I run seven miles a day.”

So, we don’t know where it manifests itself, and we jokingly call it the sex drive, but it doesn’t have to be just sex.

Bart Baggett: One of the common mistakes is we say, hey, it’s a big y, that means a big sex drive. Well, it’s really the long y that means a big sex drive. The heaviness of the descenders are your physical energy.

The second y that says loner with a lack of drive… has anyone ever been sick, had a cold or pneumonia, and noticed that your y’s change? Have you noticed this? It gets smaller, because your drive changes, you have a lack of energy.

Those who work too much, and don’t exercise much, their y’s get a little shorter – that’s a lack of energy and drive.

Naturally, if you have a lack of energy and drive, your handwriting is probably not going to be as good. There’s a strong correlation between how much exercise somebody wants, how much exercise you get and how much sex drive you have. It’s a very similar part of the brain.

When we talk about the study of depression, if you’re depressed, you don’t have much sex drive, but you don’t have much energy, either. They’re correlated heavily.

If you start jogging on a regular basis, your sex drive will increase – so will your energy level. So, ladies, if you’re married, you might want to encourage your husband to start jogging a little more.

Let’s go on. Aggressiveness – you see this occasionally. There’s an angle at the base line, but there’s no loop. If there’s no loop, there’s no what? Trust! If there is no loop, there is not a lot of trust.

So people who are aggressive don’t have a lot of trust and intimacy, therefore they react quickly. It’s kind of like tempers – tempers are a stroke on the right side of the t-bar, and this is sort of a temper stroke in the lower zone, with an angle.

Curt Baggett: And people who have the aggressive angle – I asked a young man the other day, “Do you still hit people?” He said, “Yeah, ‘cuz I’m a boxer.” He’s physically aggressive, interesting story.

Bart comes to me years ago and he says, “I don’t understand,” (his brother’s name is Brett), “Brett has physical aggressiveness in his handwriting, but he’s the most non-violent person I know – what does that mean?”

I said, “Have you ever talked to him? He gets right up in your face, he invades your space. His physical aggressiveness manifests itself in getting in your face and your space.”

You see, he’s not physically aggressive, he’s not going to hit you, but he’ll take your space and dominate the conversation.

Bart Baggett: The older President Bush of ten years ago had aggressive strokes in his writing. One would think the younger one might have it too. But, you wouldn’t think by talking to the older George Bush, or seeing him, that he’s an aggressive man. He’s very sweet and kind. But, you know what? He didn’t hesitate to invade, you know, it means assertive people.

Physical Frustration: anybody here with big, loopy loops that are a little like fish hooks? You don’t have to admit it, but that’s physical frustration, they’re incomplete.

A lot of people with this are in a divorce, they’re in a relationship they’re unhappy with, their husband travels a lot, they don’t get enough exercise, they’re frustrated, they’re incomplete.

Curt Baggett: We went into a restaurant one time and analyzed the server’s handwriting that was waiting on the table. I said, “You’re frustrated.” And I looked at it some more, and I said, “You’re really frustrated,” and I looked at it some more and I said, “You’re REALLY frustrated.”

She didn’t react at all. We went and sat down and ordered our meal. She brings over drinks and says, “These are on the house – I figured out what was frustrating me and I took care of it.” I don’t know what it was…

Bart Baggett: But she was gone for quite awhile!

Clannishness: which means what? What does the word “clan” mean? It means an organization like a small group, right? Clannish means one that ostracizes other people and sticks with their own. Everybody else is sort of at arm’s distance.

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